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Warhammer Fantasy Battle 3rd ed.

07 Feb

A while ago, I bacame a touch disillusioned with the current ruleset for Warhammer Fantasy battle. eventually, after a fair bit of tinkering, we ended up switching back to Warhammer Fantasy Battle 3rd Edition.

Why? I hear you ask….

Well, initially it’s due to the slightly more complex ruleset, and slightly more resiliant troops amongst other things. I’m not going to go into the details regarding what it is about the current rulesets I dont like; I dont see much point, at least not until I can put some more constructive comments around it.

Other than the current changes we’ve made to the WFB 3rd edition ruleset (See… even the one we play now doesn’t wholly satisfy…. Kinda like a Snickers bar with no peanuts…) but I’ll go into those details another day.

When my old copy of Warhammer Fantsy Battle was replaced (Thanks Ebay!) as I’d not seen it in about a decade at least…. One thing became apparant.

The armies had drastically changed the available units. And a lot of the new units, were rather spiffy & characterful.

Plus I’ve got a Beastman & Lizardman army, neither of which are really covered.

Bugger.

Now, we could have tried to shoehorn the new units in the original lists, but then it was felt that that wouldnt be too easy to balance costings wise, plus I had a few suspicions that some of the units were not as ‘equally’ costed as other.

So, taking a leaf from our Rogue Trader project (of which more, later…) and put together a rough costing for stats/abilities etc for individual creatures. Plus the basic weapon costs from the Warhammer Fantasy BoB (Big Orange Book) can be use to put together an army list.

I’ll post the costs another day, but for now we’ve got basic versions of Wood Elf, and Lizardmen lists in a playable, or rather Playtest-able state.

Next up – Beastmen & Dark Elf…

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More to come

Ady

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Posted by on February 7, 2010 in Homebrew, Warhammer Fantasy 3rd ed Project

 

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13 responses to “Warhammer Fantasy Battle 3rd ed.

  1. Big Jim

    February 7, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    Good choice, 3rd was in my opinion the best version of fantasy. My father who introduced me to WFB won’t play anything after, he has converted the current armybooks to work in third.

    So I’ll be keeping an eye on what you are doing, with great interest!

    -Jim

     
  2. Pete

    March 16, 2010 at 1:47 am

    awesome!

     
  3. Ken

    April 9, 2010 at 1:48 am

    Hi, Ran across your blog. I am building army builder files for 3rd edition. I have 6 armies done and would like some help/suggestions. I want to include a mode selection that allows current minis ranges to be taken. The file is for army builder 2 and can be found on a yahoo group I created to host it- http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WFB3/?yguid=317330554

    If you have any suggestions let me know.

     
  4. Stig

    December 20, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Great choice Ady we still play 3rd edition its still the most balanced and free. Instead of following the new books for army lists we have created our own such is inspired by the new books but incorporates some of the warhammer armies 3rd edition rules too. The generic list is finished and works very well and I am currently making up a list of racial variances for each different army with each race having a slightly different take on the list.

    As for the points of new creatures there is points formula in both 40k rogue trader as you have shown and also in wfb 2nd edition. After looking through your reduce list and

     
  5. Stig

    December 20, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Please excuse the end of the last message I’m typing this on my phone. I meant to say the redux list if abilities is very good but on working out a dread I did find it overpriced them somewhat. They cost more then a lesser demon who would quite frankly trounse them. We too are working on a way to bring new creatures into the game and I’m willing to share our lists and findings with you if you are interested Ady see what you think.

    Regards all

    Stig

     
    • Ady

      December 20, 2010 at 6:14 pm

      Doesn’t surprise me, using the Daemon rules as they are in the Realms of Chaos books they are HIDEOUSLY powerful things, we’ve not done much testing with Daemons yet, but we ere thinking of losing a lot of the abilities, and just leaving them with an unmodifiable save, and enchanted attacks, with flamers, and maybe horrors getting ranged attacks.
      but thats all to come

      Ady

       
  6. Stig

    December 20, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    The lesser demon stats were the one in the wfb rulebook we used demons are hideously powerful though as you say, even in that, realm of chaos is banned in the group, lol good art work though. We worked a dryad out at 18 from the formula + 2 points for light armour equivalent, + 5 for fear + for immune to psychology – 5 for flamable, we coloured moving through woods as red as wood elves cost no extra for that abillity in the game, that comes to 25 points a model, we havent tweaked the skirmish rules yet but thats on the agenda. Of course this is just our take on things and I’m not trying to belittle your work in any way.

    Great sight by the way as I said if you want I’ll share our ideas with you.

    Regards

    Stig

    Regards

     
  7. Stig

    December 20, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    or site even. lol

     
  8. Jorgen

    February 8, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Awesome information here… I just picked up the 3rd edition the other day and we played a game this weekend with some smaller tweaks to the rules and army lists. We had a game of Orcs versus Wood Elves.

    It would be really interesting to see what changes you have done to the rules… our changes have mainly been from a realistic (in a human historic sense) to the rules and allowing for pre measuring and some slight variance in charge , rout and pursuit move. As well as being able to try dispelling spells if you really want that spell no to happen.

    The link the the Wood Elf book seem to be broken for me though… 😦

     
    • Ady

      March 14, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      Hi Guys,

      Reboot for the 3rd ed stuff coming soon – Change of ISP has lost the lists on that particular host, but there being redone & reposted folowing correction to formulae

      Ady

       
  9. Karl

    March 14, 2011 at 5:15 am

    Yep, busted for me too…

    We recently bought up all the 3rd edition books and have been playing through a few games. We’re new to WFB but know Rogue Trader well…
    It seems a lot of folks lately are moving to WFB 3e… very cool.

     
    • Ady

      March 14, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      Hi Guys,

      Theres a reboot for the 3rd ed stuff coming soon – Change of ISP has lost the lists on that particular host, but there being redone & reposted folowing correction to formulae

      Ady

       

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